Reviews on Using Magic Eraser in Pool Skimmer

Crackerjack4u

This is being written as a stand lonely Thread, but the topic is also being discussed, and some of my info here is also in the other particular Thread as well. http://www.troublefreepool.com/threads/104454-Bought-a-Pool-and-it-came-with-a-houses/page4
The OP of the linked Thread to a higher place has left a message on the topic on the Magic Eraser web site, and is awaiting their answer too. So hopefully, he volition include the data he receives in the comments of this Thread, as well.

Here's how the Questioning began: Earlier today I was going to suggest that a Magic Eraser may be useful in a pool to remove some dark marks on the lesser of the pool. Simply so I got to thinking I wonder what the heck is in the Magic Erasers, and do they like to play nice with the bleach that I know is in in that location already. And so before I suggested this as a possible solution to removing something from the bottom of the pool, containing chlorine, I ready of to find out for sure IF they are SAFE to use with the bleach in contact.

I've heard so many people say how beneficial they are, and how well they work in cleaning about anything, pool stuff, included. The magic erasers work well on areas with hard to remove marks on the exterior of the pool. But are they really condom?

Here is what I ran beyond so far: I've found that outside the pool Yep, in direct contact with the bleach, even so, is not advisable.

There is actually no active ingredient listed on the box of Magic Erasers which I noticed when checking on my box here. And then I gear up out searching for answers to ensure at that place would be no chemical reactions between the active ingredient in the Magic Eraser, and the bleach in the pool.

Turns out Magic Eraser wasn't originally even fabricated to clean, it was made equally an "insulator/fire retardant" that but happened to cease upward also beingness an splendid cleaning tool as well. Too it Turns out in that location is no active ingredient on the box because there is none in the Magic Eraser itself. According to the article linked beneath the "agile ingredient" if yous want to call it that is merely Your "elbow grease."

I'm thinking ok no active ingredient equals no chance for a chemic reaction, Correct? Incorrect.

It does turn out however that the Magic Eraser itself "is made of a formaldehyde-melamine-sodium bisulfitecopolymer foam made by the German language visitor BASF ". http://world wide web.kitchenandresidentialdesign.com/2010/06/whats-in-magic-eraser.html

According to this commodity http://world wide web.themodernembalmer.com/bleach.html likewise as, several other reviewed. Formaldehyde, and Bleach should Never exist in contact with each other.

So the question remains is it really Safe to use a Magic Eraser in your pool, on your pool equipment, when information technology will be contact with bleach, or non?

Is the percentage of Formaldehyde too low in the Magic Eraser to really exist a risk?

I doubtable (just my thought so don't take it as fact) that for cleaning around the height of your pool equally long every bit your rinse well to remove all the small Magic Eraser particles left behind the risk would exist slim to none.

Only if your plan is to employ it to remove the band inside the waterline of your puddle, or marks off the bottom of your puddle containing bleach, that your risk could be significantly increased.

Anyway, that'due south what I've located thus far and will pass along any boosted info I locate. But from a safety aspect, and wanting to ensure all my new TFP friends, remain safe at all times, I felt it important to pass the data forth.

Anyone who has anything else to add, please feel free to do so. I await forward to reading the comments regarding this. Have a wonderful dark .

Alwayswantedapool

No response yet from the folks at Mr. Clean, they said they would respond in 48 hours. I will mail service their response as presently every bit I get it.

woodyp

I use those to clean the scum/tanning lotion ring out of the inside of my skimmer all the time. Nix has always blown upwards! No dead bodies or zombies either.

Crackerjack4u

I'g looking frontward to the info Alwayswantedapool.

LOL sounds good Woody. One can't exist too careful when it comes to "dead bodies or zombies".

I use them in my tub with other cleaners that may, or may non, have bleach in them (lol I never bothered to check), so far and so expert on that too. I love Magic Erasers for cleaning lots of things.

PAGirl

I exercise apply i with bleach quite often, (Clorox Cleanup)and have never smelled the smell I do when bleach hits some other cleaner, such as dish soap. Generally, when using a Magic Eraser, information technology is necessary to wipe the surface later using, equally it leaves a bit of a picture. Not certain how this volition translate nether water. I did employ one on the upper function of my onetime Intex,because in that location was a black film on it. It worked well. However, they tend to autumn apart on rough surfaces quite hands, you would likely see a lot of droppings using i on rough plaster.

Crackerjack4u

Very true PaGirl. I've had them practise that too with heavy scrubbing, or rough surfaces. The actual one I had was considering recommending it for had a smooth surface, but even with a shine surface, information technology they aren't changed out frequently a person could easily stop up having particles of Magic Eraser in their puddle, and then there is as well the "picture show" consequence that y'all mentioned.

Equally far as vinyl lined pools, smooth surfaced pools, or the Intex pool, etc. using them for the scum rings, h2o rings, borders, etc. would probably work well as far as the cleaning ability of the production, as long as, the person using them switched them out often before they became overly worn. I can't be certain just suspect the "film" would probably be quickly removed through dilution, and filtration, yet there is still no balls that it would be actually Safe, chemic wise, in one case the Magic Eraser came in contact with the bleach in the pool.

We used them to clean white vinyl boat seats, and they worked bang-up on the vinyl. They seemed to last relatively well from the scrubbing, just nosotros weren't using whatever other products other than a bucket of plain water with them. So I don't know if using other products with them could also crusade them to fall apart quicker then using them with merely plain water merely?

Thanks for your input PaGirl, I appreciate information technology. Take a wonderful night.

wjr75

If you ever have a little kid apply crayon on your painted dry wall...Magic Eraser!

Crackerjack4u

LOL wjr75, aye I see that, and I'k very glad to hear information technology because you could take been in danger, and weren't even aware of it.

ale: Lucky this Thread came forth when it did.

Have a wonderful night.

EDIT: LOL at Woody's comment.

Crackerjack4u

I agree on the crayons Wjr75, they are also groovy at removing dried permanent mark, stale paint from window sills, etc. My grandson filled out the Write on Wipe off agenda with a permanent marking, and it was Magic Eraser to the rescue.

PAGirl

I work at a preschool, I use them quite often, lol. Used one to clean some old wooden chairs at piece of work merely this night. (With the Clorox Cleanup, as a matter of fact, ha.) I once used one to clean a rust stain off the hood of my motorcar. (The box likewise says that's a no-no.) it was an older motorcar, so it didn't matter.

My only gripe is that I wish they didn't disintegrate so apace.

Crackerjack4u

Yeah on the cars with the protective coating they work and then well that they can accept the protective coating right off of them. I agree on wishing they lasted longer before falling apart.

Megsyperk

I concord on the crayons Wjr75, they are also smashing at removing dried permanent mark, dried paint from window sills, etc. My grandson filled out the Write on Wipe off agenda with a permanent marker, and it was Magic Eraser to the rescue.

Dry erase mark over the sharpie will piece of work as well! Takes information technology right off.

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chem geek

In the Champion Expanding Encyclopedia of Mortuary Practices article "Bleach in Embalming Rooms: Overrated and Overused Function i" written by a chemist at The Champion Company:

Bleach is chemically reactive with formaldehyde and generates several gases when mixed. Chlorine gas in addition to formic acrid are formed during reaction -- both evolving considerable noxious fumes. Chlorine oxides are formed and BCME (bis-chloromethylether) which is a very neurotoxic gas is possible likewise. In fact, the typical lab synthesis of BCME involves formaldehyde reacting with a bleach blazon chlorine species. Phosgene (Cl2CO) is not produced, as has been occasionally reported elsewhere.

Note, however, that formaldehyde in the Magic Eraser is not a separate chemic but one component of a polymer and then will not be nearly as reactive with chlorine. Also, the above description of bug with chlorine and formaldehyde is talking nigh the mixing of concentrated solutions. Nevertheless, in some polymers there are oftentimes found modest quantities of unreacted monomers (individual ingredients) though how much depends on the specifics of the chemic manufacturing procedure. This patent, for instance, describes formation of a formaldehyde-melamine-sodium bisulfite resin (copolymer) that outgases less formaldehyde. This MSDS for Magic Eraser says the following nether Stability and Reactivity:

Possible Hazardous Reactions/Conditions: Stable at normal temperatures and pressure.
Weather condition to Avert: Avoid heat, flames, sparks and other sources of ignition. Avoid contact with incompactible [sic] materials.
Materials to Avoid: Oxidizing materials.
Hazardous Decomposition Products: Oxides of carbon, oxides of nitrogen, oxides of sulfur, aromatic compounds, formaldehyde, hydrogen cyanide.
Other Recommendations:

The lesser line is that the agile chlorine concentration in our swimming pools is equivalent to less than 0.1 ppm FC with no CYA. You should not exist worrying virtually reactions of chlorine with the Magic Eraser. Not but are such reactions minimal due to the polymer itself, merely the very low chlorine concentration makes any such reactions occur very slowly. Adding concentrated bleach to a Magic Eraser would be more of a problem, though even and so the reaction rate would be fairly boring. An acidic chlorine solution such as from Trichlor or the use of chlorine gas or use of a stronger oxidizer (eastward.1000. ammonium permanganate, chromic acid, fluorine) would be more of a problem. Once more, chlorine at dilution amounts in swimming pools should not exist an issue.

Chrissykr

I used them to clean my white fiberglass stairs. The previous owner probably had never cleaned them. My family could not believe the difference! They are vivid white now.

A word of suggest...don't use the Walmart brand they autumn function afterwards a couple of minutes and are useless.

Crackerjack4u

Thank you lot Chem Geek for clarifying that for me/us.

Well there you take it folks. Per Chem Geek's additional research from the source in a higher place. (Paraphrasing)- it turns out it should be safe to go on using our handy groovy Magic Erasers that we've all grown so fond of to continue to clean on, near, in, or around our pools/equipment because of the low amount of diluted bleach present.

It continues, yet, to remain a possible potential for problems, and has a college run a risk factor for reaction, (although it would occur "very slowly"), when Magic Erasers are beingness used with "Concentrated Bleach," "Chlorine Gas", or products with an "Acid Chlorine Solution such as from Trichlor."- (Which sounds similar to me to exist just 1 more reason to stay with Liquid Bleach Only ).

Now we all know that nosotros can continue to Safely relish the awesome cleaning benefits to our pool/equipment that our Magic Erasers provide.

Thank you again, Chem Geek for the information. Nosotros always and then appreciate your input, extensive research, and your outstanding chemical knowledge.

I hope everyone has a wonderful day.

Crackerjack4u

LOL wjr75 too funny. OK yous can breath on the count of 3. Are you gear up? Here nosotros get: ane, 2, 2 ane/two, 2 3/iv, .....3. Jiff lol. Have a nice day.

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